FORO THE LORD ARCHMAGE

are regular attacks turned on, or working properly, because they seem to be exactly the same as sieges to me...i will continue to look into this,.

dont awake the beast loky....u dont want that to happen, and i dont want that to happen cuz im too lazy to read all this god damn spanish.

its called being an effective mage by spelling during wartime.  kind of like how u linger around 3 million np with less than 1k land.  other people choose to do that aswell, but they are more productive about it and spell people.  so before u go around talking shit, just realize that i own your life, if u know whats good for u, u will stop before u awaken the beast...

Towlie thinks that HIGH got 'high' and started warring other HIGH members because they were 'high'.  Basketball players can jump really high and they can also get very high in the lockerroom and at clubs.  

I respect this means of communication.

out of honor and respect,

I will leave your mage last on my list.

how quickly i get to the bottom of that list will remain to be seen.  

Good Luck

Towlie Says:  " WANNA GET HIGH?"

Towlie says: Wanna get HIGH?

well congradulations, (expects free cigars)

seeing as i have no idea what is being said, ill add a traditional...


JAJAJAJAJAJJA  

ehh...might as well

:cheer:  

:raja:  :raja:  :raja:  :raja:  :raja:  :raja:  :raja:  :raja:  :raja:  :raja:  :raja:

Let the "NAP" begin.

hehe Thank you, Thank you  " I'll be here all week...TRY THE VEAL!"

CitaI only can say this. Im amazed.

The only cheaters here are "wiris". We check it every and every reset.
You dont have any reasons to call me "milker", but i go to explain all people yours ulterior motives to do it.

Etrius, MQF and me have killed all your high mages and now, you want some reason to kill us, cause u cant do it in game. Its pathetic.

I go to give you a piece of advice for free:
You and your friends are goods cheating. Now you must learn to play fair. I know that it could be hard for all you, but im sure that u can do it. (its ironic )

what a crock of bullshit. lol.....but good try anyway.

and i WOULD NOT talk about how u have killed all our mages and have still survived,

VERY RISKY CALL FROM A TOP 10 MAGE BEFORE ARMA...who belongs to a guild that has alienated itself.

And dont even try to change the subject about the past and what some people might have done who are no longer playing. we are in the present, and YOU were the person who attacked a mage of his own guild. whatever the circumstances be...both of your guild headings were *LP*  so wheter u get deleted or we have to kill you in arma, u will forever be remembered in this reset as the mage who MILKED.

Your name is tarnished, trashed, garbage, ruined, i actually feel bad for u.

because now u will be remembered for milking and not for being one of the top 4 LP mages who were killed in armageddon.


And now my advice for you:
Dont count your chickens before they hatch...

-AND-

remember what u look like before arma, because i promise it will be the last time u see anything close to this again.

LP did not climb on skill, they snuck in the back door hiding behind warring guilds and they made it and maintained it by cheating...wheter it be 'milking' or abusing bugs without reporting them.

either way,
the bigger you are, the higher you fall...

the bigger you are with ghey stacks and mediocre skill...the funnier the fall is

3.- Milking is forbidden under elimination penalty.

Milking means:
Obtaining any kind of advantage, being land, protection, disband units, etc., by using offensive actions: attacks, items, or spells; and by mutual agreement of the mages waring.


No one is eliminated yet....

im sure if u went to frank and asked him to remove natural from lp that could be done....

or since ur leader died u can make a new lp guild...

but those options dont involve you guys gaining free land...do they?

there are other options here, but i guess the MILKING one was chosen

if justice is made... i have no further reason to keep this going. hopefully natural and draxtar will be dealt with  

good thing kda broke thier nap with lp...no one wants to be associated with a guild of CHEATERS, eh?

Oh yes...how silly of me, i must have forgotten how things work around here...

umm because Natural was kicked out of LP TODAY... and was milked on the 12th and the 10th while he was a member of LP

...try to defend it, i would LOVE to see this truckload of bullshit comming

YES my friends, you have heard it from yours truely, Panther.

LP cheats (cough cough MILKERS)  

2004-07-12  05:46:30 Draxtar(#841) Natural(#255)
2004-07-12  02:30:48 Natural(#255) Draxtar(#841)
2004-07-10  06:11:07 Draxtar(#841) Natural(#255)


As the rules CLEARLY STATE. YOU SHOULD BE DELETED.

I am disgusted that the 'honorable' LP guild would dare to cheat.  

Have fun in hell...because thats where you'll be reincarnating from  

i applaud you hispano....not many people could get bitched as badly as you are right now and still take it all with a smile and a humurous attitude.

if only there were more like you who loose so easily and take it with a smile  

:mmm:  after reading the title... i have come to the conclusion that in Hispano vs. TCA,  TCA is winning

and i am positive that the 'accidental' 50 compasses didnt help  

what amazing timing for this accident to occur....accidents like that can only at better timing if it were planned....oh wait, it was  

for once me and loky agree.


...this isnt just milking,
this person should be deleted for stupidity as well



hill(#698)
diet(#700)
iced(#701)
tea(#702)

2004-05-06 17:43:28 286 Crimson [a href=http://www.gamesweb.cl/archmage01/units.php?id_unidad=62 target=_blank]devil[/a](#515) 6.103.553 2.977 33 GLH Cronica MSG P 8.00 R S P 2004-05-06 17:42:58 286 Crimson [a href=http://www.gamesweb.cl/archmage01/units.php?id_unidad=62 target=_blank]devil[/a](#515) 6.103.553 2.977 33 GLHCronica MSG P 11.93 R S P 2004-05-06 17:42:50 286 Crimson [a href=http://www.gamesweb.cl/archmage01/units.php?id_unidad=62 target=_blank]devil[/a](#515) 6.103.553 2.977 33 GLH Cronica MSG P 5.16 R S P 2004-05-06 17:37:53 286 Crimson [a href=http://www.gamesweb.cl/archmage01/units.php?id_unidad=62 target=_blank]devil[/a](#515) 6.103.553 2.977 33 GLH

....LOOK THERE! Now he is In GLH:P

that evidence can be forged easily, wit the delete button and
the keys...
the evidence of bot users is to to to clear to to to however.

to to under for if i were all of you i would stop pointing fingers
around and start apoligizing disgracing the integrity of the game

Citacorrijo

LoKy: 44 - Guris y amigos: 0

Nueva victima: Stukov(#2382)


:lol:  :lol:

bots have

loky:1
our guilds and friends : 0

Edited:

 
 try to justify them all you want

totally wrong alf and you are just making excuses to justify your guilty actions.

CALCULATORS....make things convient

they give u information about stack and mana etc that can help YOUR MAGE and your strategy

Bots...make things unfair

any counter argument saying that these two things are parallel to one another is total BS and a complete cover up.

face it, you were caught cheating. get over it and get over yourselves. the rules and consequences apply to EVERYONE, not everyone except members of Ltdd.  i seemed to have not recalled reading that one...

ya got caught

be a man

own up to it

and once you get deleted hopefully you will play fair next time

Cita6 años de que?  

juas cada día me haces reir más Panther, has pensado en ponerte unas narizotas y zapotes y divertir a los niños  :lol:

im glad to make the great loky laugh.

and i am even more thrilled to catch him and his guild in thier true form...the cheating one.  

Ltdd's

Credibility ----> 0
Honor ---------> 0
Respect -------> 0
Clean Name ---> 0

You and your guild cheated, you use movement bots.  now you leave your guild, why?

So your whole guild does not get deleted.
then if just you are deleted i suppose one of your 'friends' will lend you 'their' mages as they have done so, so conviently and timely in the past, just at the exact time you were killed your 'friend' suddenly could not play his mage and you end up with it.


you can laugh make fun and rub what ever in our faces all you want

the council and admins know who the REAL cheaters are.

and i and everyone else know that the only reason you have so many kills is because you cheated by using bots.        dont do the crime if you cant pay the time  

dont worry loky

despite your best efforts to take the fall

LTDD cheated, not just you

though you cheated as well

NewsFlash:

cheaters win wars that dont count
if u have to stoop that low, your 6 years of experience should have told u this was wrong.

you are a hypocrit and you and your 'former' guild deserve to be deleted and stricken from the HoF if they ever return and make it up there

which i doubt cuz the only way u can beat us is by cheating

CitaI understeand you Iratus, but i think that the use of multis is also and advantage for all the guild, is inocent believe that only 1 mage do a multi and get benefits for only him. In the reality multis are used by all the guild. By example, white mages full of gold being pillajed when needed by any memeber of the guild, red mages trowing VE when any mage of the guild need get soft a counter. Blue mages trowing spells, etc etc.
I think this is worst than a bot, anyways, we can discuss this and be sure we are going to agree in 1 thing
The multies and bots are chetaing and are bad for the game

the order of the wich is worst i will say they are to close to chose 1 without any doubt  =P

a guild does not multimage unless it votes or declares something on that issue. for the most part it is individual and has nothing to do with a gguild decision

this guild voted, as a guild not as an individual to cheat and gain an unfair advantage.  now anf forever more the guild responsible will be remembered for being a bunch of no good, cheating, hypocrits.

when their guild is deleted and mages have to be reincarnated for their cheating offense one would hope that they try to play fair in the future

the high and mighty are really the ones who have been cheating all along...

is it worse then multimaging by and individual. whatever i think its worse but guess what? they punishment is the same

deletion...


and guilds that gain unfair advantages for cheating dont legitametly win wars or hall spots

==============
as for the quote when multimages were around

pillages didnt work,
ve's didnt work,
spells didnt work,

however, now they do and the game is mostly clean of multis and the guilds that used to use them, but yet full of bot users who spell and ve people whenever they move.

our positions on rank were almost unchanged due to the bot

....we keep falling because whenever we move we get mysteriously spelled by loky or another mage.

i hope you guys have learned your lesson and i hope that when you are all deleted that you reincarnate and play this game the fair way.  because you have definately had an unfair advantage in many aspects. if the majority voted for somethign illegal then one would hope that the majority will be rightfully punished just as people have been previously punished for rule violating offenses (whether it be written or common sense)

and the bug thing, people bitch that we dont help find them, and then when we find one we get chastized for it...

CitaI didn't like it very much, but the question about its legality was in doubt, cause there was absolutely nothing stated in the rules about bots.

common sense...NO??

====================================

when people were unaware of disbanding being milking....all i got was that phrase above ^.   it seems there are not rules, but implied silenced rules that control this game as well.

====================================

i ask you just as it was asked upon me.

where is yyour common sense? dont your recognize that this is cheating?  you have played am long enough to recognize that these products are frowned upon and illicit.  If they were legal then why arent they included on the game page?

you all fully know well what was going on and what was legal and not.

if people get deleted because disbanding on your guild is 'milking'
then people should get deleted becuse they used bots to gain an unfair advantage

c'mon as am vets i thought ya fellas would know that USING BOTS IS CHEATING...

i guess we now know who the REAL cheaters are...and all along we have been wrongfully taking the bad rap.

be careful when you spit in the wind because it might fly back into your face

maybe we should do the honorable thing like you did and jump in as a spy into our enemy guild and then climb to the top only to get bitched down once you turn.  

but watch i am calling it now....mark my words

3 sets here to absolute victory - No Hof
1 set of defeat  - there will be a Hof...

ironic?

Citamono   <a href=http://www.gamesweb.cl/archmage01/units.php?id_unidad=41 target=_blank>[a href=http://www.gamesweb.cl/archmage01/units.php?id_unidad=41 target=_blank]sprite[/a]</a> vs.  mono  aa?

very exciting stacks.... for noobs

obviously you both cant attack yourselves...thats milking

so the offensor is on one side and the defender is on the other.

i was pointing out how in general this game has become a bunch of p-whipped noobs who use mono stacks to win.

anyone who needs to use single stack for offense or defense is either lazy or he cant stack.

mono   [a href=http://www.gamesweb.cl/archmage01/units.php?id_unidad=41 target=_blank]sprite[/a] vs.  mono  aa?

very exciting stacks.... for noobs

oh well, no hard feelings  

i guess if ya cant beat them, join them...lol

lets all argue less about the forum and more about the issus.


Protection is not right
VE is not right.
Wish is not right.
and god knows what else....

the game has taken great steps of improvement.


but it is still not complete, and it needs to be

i agree that picture is hilarious. i suggest loky use that.

i dont really follow too much what was said perviously because my spanish is limited.

all i wanted was that issues be regarded equally here.

if it is a "family game" (the excuse used in other instances and conflicts) then make it a famile game in all aspects (i.e. removing obscene pictures.  some people may find them disgusting, horrifying, apalling etc.)

A picture is worth a 1000 words.... so why should we regulate people upon a few words that they say and not upon a picture as well.

i would just like for things to be held on equal levels for everyone here.

and personally i think wulfbait's picture is 10x better than the origional.

(and if everyone was too lazy to read that i will sum it up)
remove the avatar and put wulfbait's or anyother (non-offensive pic) in its place and no one will have a beef with anyone

I would just like to point out that if people get sensored for comments and descriptions because this is a "family game"
that is totally fine with me


BUT BE FAIR ABOUT IT


How come loky can post pictures of bats with erections?[/size]

IS THAT VERY FAMILY ORIENTED?\
WOuld you like your kid to see this?

That is not funny, and it offends me every time i see it.

SO BE FAIR AND SENSOR EVERYONE OR SENSOR NO ONE.


not Sensor english but let loky do whater the f*** he wants because he is loky

I am sick and tired of this biased bulls***

Cita
Be it as it may , when the times come that i launch
my all-out attack to gain the top , should i fear that
an admin kills my mage?

ARE YOU KIDDING??

IRATUS?


since when did iratus switch roles with the rest of the corrupt people on that council.

OUR MAGES WERE DELETED DURING RUNS LAST ARMA. OUR MAGES WERE DELETED FOR NO REASON. to comment on undomel. WHEN OUR MAGES were deleted I DID NOT SEE you CRY FOR colsultation of the ENTIRE COUNCIL BEFORE DECISIONS WERE MADE???

when all this stuff was going on, Iratus NEVER retaliated of stooped down to the level of other council members, or former ones.

Marchetta deleted us because we attacked her, iratus never deleted you because  you attacked him ....

where did you complain or express your worries about her?

JUST COME OUT AND SAY IT, you have 5 members on the council and iratus is the only person stopping you guys from having 100% total control over our mage;s fate.  

If iratus was booted (which u bastards want)  then we would be entirely hopeless to deletions etc without anyone who is nonbiased and fair to protect us.

i can see through all of you like you were wrapped in clear plastic.

you all disgust me

is do not EVER want to see anyone one your side of the fence bitch about worries or concern. you have nothing to fear ever..... because the injustices are only done to US

im not blaming you i am just stating that i would love to have so many worries as you have...and i was curious if you wanted to trade situations.  


of course...no one would want to be in our place when it comes to the council, and decisions that are made in this game.  

WOuld you like to trade situations?

i would MUCH RATHER have 2 mages deleted once.

then countless mages deleted, our integrity always in question, our mages being sabatoged, the mages we kill being resurrected for the basic fact that we killed them...


I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE 'PROBLEMS' YOU GUYS HAVE.[/size]

if you have it so tough, spend a reset in our shoes.

CitaAgain people know not of what they speak. The fact is that the mages are two different people of this I did not deny. but the issue here is not that . They have both used the same isp providers  the same ip numbers all of this I traced before even deleting the mages.

Lord Laws state that even if they notify they are same ip they must not coordinate anything. By there own admission in previous bord they do this and intend to continue.

Yes two different isp prociders but both mage  use both providers. Of this I have proof.

You all reallythink that I would take any action with out looking at the proof the isp providers and the ips.

I have never been unfair to anyone on this game and i dont intend to be now. James came to me and saiod he wast sure on this one. An me andhim decided to restore there mages. This was done. a;; we asked them to do is not coordinate because they both use the isp providers and ips.

then you have your mages back, it is done.

i was innocent and i was deleted for 3 weeks last reset!

whatever you say is the case....i really dont care.

proof was found and you were deleted.  if there is a problem with this then you have a problem with frank and his methods of tracking ips or with with your isp the selves.

either way this is not revenge or spite.



========================================

evidence was found that broke the rules of the game.

simple no?  


how many times have i seen this used when you guys were on the other side of the fence?

or how bout this


if you dont want to be deleted

then DONT CHEAT!

=======================

would you like those reasons instead? because i can tell you for a fact those are all the reasons i or my friends have ever gotten.

STFU.

you can dish it out for 3 entire resets and not give a flying F***
and when you are on the other end of the rope you cant take the heat.

news flash:

mages have been deleted because they have attacked OTHER council members, members who STILL remain on the council.

mages have been deleted because frank did not like thier email addresses, they had no other proof of multimaging.

so please, stop calling iratus a liar, and questioning his integrity.

if the entire council was like him no one would have anything to fear because he is fair and just.


p.s. this has nothing to do with iratus's motive but is my own opinion .... how does it feel to FOR ONCE WALK IN OUR SHOES.  i cannot BEGIN TO DESCRIBE the obstacles that have been put in our way FROM DAY ONE.  

Our mages are being sabatoged left and right by someone....
your mages keep meyseriously resurrecting after they were killed...killed not deleted.


"the stabber was stabbed himself one day and was amazed at how bad it hurt and asked the question.  Wow have i been doing this to people all along? this really hurts."



YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT UNFAIR THINGS AND INJUSTICES IN THIS GAME, you are preaching to the choir over here...

whatever has happened, (mistake or not...which i strongly was no mistake) is only a fraction of what has happened to us...

Citahmmm lets see where this goes!?

TCA mages please stay out of this thread also and leave it to EoE and TCA diplomates


This is an A and B conversation so C your way out...

This is a Verizon-Cingular conversation so SPRINT your ass out...

umm yea cant think of any more

JAJA/HAHA!

 

lol texas....its an ... 'interesting place, ill give it that'
the southern us is just a bunch of pissed off nascar fanatics who still fly the confederate flag and are proud, dont ask me i dont understand it, considering they lost that war.

ive never heard of anything you speak of but i suppose it is because u spent the time in texas which is really conservative. the northern half of the country is more liberal and more sane if you will... lol and i would rather have spain and chile as a state than arkansas and alabama. but you gotta take the good with the bad lol.

i feel bad for your experience, they love guns, nascar and execution of criminals...lol

free speech is not as free in those places because people are sensitive and whine complain and sue.
there is definately some hypocracy in the democracy but

if you wear a shirt that says ....is gay
gay people get pissed

if you have vilonce or bad words
parents get pissed and worry what their kid will hear.

my view is if you dont like something then dont pay attention to it

if the shows on tv at 9 at night is too violent for your child. dont let him or her watch that show.

this description is a different story, one terrible thing was written the rest is all competitive bullsh*t and emotions.  i believe that the comment about the terrorism thing was a heat of the moment thing, which does not excuse it.  if it were not for that i would say shut the **** up and dont pay attention to it.  but that comment definately stepped over the line.


as for the council stuff....

I THOUGHT WE WERE OVER THAT STUFF LAST RESET!!!
i could have SWORN being promised that no council would exist and no mages would be deleted unless cheating occurs and the mage is notified and has a chance to explain.

i know it was not iratus whom deleted him because for some odd reason his powers were revoked once the war started....IRONIC, no?

i do not want to accuse anyone of deleting, i would like to know who has powers to delete and control my mage, because i want to know who i have to suck up to to keep my mage  alive.

need i remind you how many people have been deleted because of personal whims or vendettas.  Marchetta deleted whoever attacked that b*T*h.

if the thing was offensive, which it was, make a rule sayign no vulgar comments etc.

if you are going to delete mages
NOTIFY THEM,
no better yet,
DONT DELETE MAGES
only frank should have that power, and him alone
if there is a problem address it with him personally and settle it.

i could have sworn we were over this BULLsh!t

and to think yesterday i was praising this game because no one had been deleted wrongfully... of course when people have powers they abuse it.

if this mage is not restored then the promise not to delete mages via council is a LIE! and i fear this better be fixed before the game is forever effected by this cowardly move.

again, what was written was wrong.

what was done to address the situation was WRONG as well.

this needs to be FIXED IMMEDIATELY and ALL council powers SHOULD be REVOKED LIKE PROMISED

well it is out on the table.

but i know at least 5-7 Ltdd mages who can definately suceed and have a shot at halling.

i know of maybe 3-4 powers who have a chance.

and to majo viejo verde

we are all using our resoucres now, rotten food, pipes, books, vortexes and dolls, using whines etc to recover. will their be sufficient resources left or mages powerful enough for any contention?

let cooler heads pervail and let us all do the sensible thing for our guilds.
i can think of 2 guilds that are playing thier cards right...and i think we can guess which two.

peace is offered and on the table. if we want to negotiate further let us set a date and time and discuss all of this. unfortunately things happened that lead to war, things no one had any control over. we cannot chage the past but we can improve our futures this reset...again, if anyone is interested and likes the idea by all means...

Cita

CitaRegarding the war with LTDD, El Gran Capitan (#23) was a big nusiance to our mages as he targeted many EoE members with mass sprites and powered up and down crazily. This was one reason as many LTDD mages did this to us. Although not neccessarily multiattacking, a definite annoyance. Random means random, not targeting.

I bet everyone apreccates your effort for peace Patchan, but I have to disagrtee in this paragraph. This is a competitive game, everyone wants to be on the top, or to do anything so that his/her guilld is on he top. El gran Capitan was trying to be on the top and to do so he had to attack the people on the top. He didn't multiattacked and did his attacks legally. Then, although anoying, El gran Capitan atttude is not enough ilega to start a war.

I agree 100% with your opinion

This is a competitive game, everyone wants to be on the top, or to do anything so that his/her guilld is on he top.

as we can all see neither sides that are warring are controlling the top, neither guilds are on the uprise in this war. all are on the decline.

the nonwarring guilds are on the incline and are being the benefifactors from this war.

so if being the most powerful mage/guild is our goal then we will not achieve it by pounding eachother into the ground.

please consider this offer of peace before it is too late

unless both guilds want to do all the dirty work
and have tia/kda get the fame from halling while we war till the end or get picked off by them.

no alliance just a stop to the war.

no one is benefiting from this war except TIA and KDA and they arent in the war

so why should both sides bust our asses to do all we can to kill when in the end we will all be too weak to stop those two guilds or to surpass them.

alliance between guilds after a war is hard, but i suggest we just stop and go back to regular randoms and and hitting anyone, not only war targets.  

i guarantee if this war continues the hof will be all kda and tia and it will be tol loss of BOTH WARRING SIDES and the VICTORY of those two guilds...

should a guild be VICTORIOUS without even being in a war?

listen we are willing to compromise because we realize the bigger picture.
if we get out of this hate hate hate mode for one minute it becomes clear that all we are doing is hurting both our chances of succeeding.  

this war is handing ON A SILVER PLATTER the entire reset to the guilds not involved. so lets stop the war and have a HoF and an armageddon based on skill and luck, not based on whom handed the spots to whom

Well here is my two cents.  some shit happened and war was started. war was not a motive of any guild it was induced by some trouble makers and now we have what is our current situation.

but here are the facts

Both guilds have mages dying
Both guilds have mages not as high as they should be based on skill because they are constant targets
Both guilds are equally pounding on one another and for what?
people who die just reincarnate and are back in a matter of days.


but here is the point i am trying to make. while Ti/Tca/Eoe war Ltdd Power Glh Omp i and whoever else decided to jump on the bandwagon.

WHile all of this is going on

1 TIA LA T.I.A. # Reclutando # 1,200 161,278 388,822,072 49 7,935,144
2 .EoE. The Empire of Excursion [recruiting/reclutando] 1,217 191,448 382,030,140 70 5,457,573
3 TCA -----***The Crimson Army***----- 984 139,863 360,410,113 36 10,011,392
4 KDA Knights of the Dark Age 310 86,462 260,062,567 12 21,671,881
5 LTDD La Torre Del Destino 914 84,597 218,415,220 28 7,800,544
6 P0wer Power And Majesty 711 83,792 212,666,693 26 8,179,488
7 PH Poder Hispano en Extremo 635 96,336 197,739,022 32 6,179,344
8 *LP* *Los pajilleros* 648 75,309 180,435,871 23 7,845,038
9 GLH Guardianes de las Lagrimas del Hielo 615 59,866 165,472,033 20 8,273,602
10 VCM ¡¡¡ Viiva Chile Mierda !!! 520 68,469 150,825,619 24 6,284,401

the guilds that are NOT involved are loring or using mc's or constantly progressing.
they have the advantage of not loosing land
they have the advantage of gelding and loring
they have the ADVANTAGE when armageddon comes along.  and will f**k us ALL over in a heartbeat to get hall spots.  

Will the "english" players in this war be able to stop this...not after a grueling war with their enemies

Will the "spanish" players in this war be able to stop this...not after a grueling war with their enemies

so while we pound eachother away for a pointless war that more than half the people dont know why we are fighting the non involved guiilds get stronger while BOTH sides get weaker.

You wanna know what those two guilds are doing right about now?
they are laughing at how stupid we ALL are, and perparing to reap the benefits of both sides tearing eachother apart.

basically, i say we end the war now and go back to playign reguarly.  this is my offer, if not, we can pound away all reset and the non-involved guilds can grow stronger and stronger until arma comes along and they get to finish off whatever is left of both sides.  


There are TWO ways this war can end
1) peaceful diplomacy NOW
2)the war will last until armageddon and then the noninvolved guilds will DESTROY BOTH sides of the warring guilds.

we are ALL smart people and we are ALL being laughed at for this stupid war. it is only hurting the guilds involved and helping SIGNIFICANTLY the non-involved guilds.

But if we wanna war from now til arma...so be it, but neiter side will die completely, so the only end is in peace or in exaustion and being picked on by non involved guilds in arma.

how will this war be remembered? the HoF dosent recognize winners of wars.
Bragging rights dont mean jack when both sides equally fight
all that appear in the HoF are

top 10 mages,
top 5 guilds.

if all guilds can remember before this war started, where their guild war ranked...ALL warring guilds dropped in power, ALL non warring guilds went up in power....

My point is clear enough,
remember this war is good for NO ONE involved...so why should the mages keep warring if nothing can benefit either side from it?

REMEMBER, they are laughing at our stupidity for keeping this war going while they get fat and ready for armageddon