Many Heroes, One Stack

[Bane]

I know in Mari AM (and in TR) that if you have one stack and many heroes all of your hero abilities still go off...is it the same here in Lord Archmage?  Because they aren't listed...

it would be quite frustrating if i bought 10 battle heroes for no reason...

[javierea]

If you have more than one hero and only one stack, just one hero goes to battle, all heroes abilities keep workiing though.

[sperm]

well... I haven't done the computation thing though but valor seems to work with lots of heroes in one stack. However, song, chill touch and animate dead don't seem to work... I wonder why....

[sperm]

Let me rephrase that... Is really frustrating running one stack here. The only time a hero's ability would work if it will lead a stack.

Damn!!    

[javierea]

Which unit are you using? maybe valor is not working because the unit you are using has high resistances.

[sperm]

I tested it.. on on simple creatures like zombies, skeletons, dryads, sprites.. virutally, units that don't have resistance to any color... Valor seems ok but lets say for example a Necromancer, the only time he can cast chill touch if he leads a stack.. Another example, Bard, the only time the song ability is activated that is if the bard leads a stack...

And so on for the other heroes like, shieldmaiden's rally ability or even the Dread Knights Unholy aura ability...  

[lord_frank]

la mayoria de las habilidades "no muestra" su efecto el reporte de batalla , ni siquiera muestra el mensaje de la habilidad, eso te puede estar pasando , pero de que estan habilitadas los estan ...


saludos

[Marduk]

Frank Post Traslation

Most abilities do not "show" their effect in the battle report, they don´t even show the msg of the abilitie, but they are afecting the result of the combat. I mean, the effect of the abilitie is "hide" but active.  

[sperm]

hidden or not working at all... Take it for chill touch... When I used single stack, No units died on chill touch...

But when I tried to use many stack... And my necromancer leads a stack, I can see in the report that a number of enemy units died in chill touch...

I tested it... I didn't use any items of spells that would kill a unit...

And for Rally ability of shieldmaiden... Rally would increase the hitpoints of ur units but in single stack it doesn't because my shieldmaiden does not lead any army... Also tactics don't seem to work that often

[vrumugum]

i've noticed the same thing.  on offense anyway, only the ability of the hero commanding a stack comes into play.  on defense, however, it seems that (all?) the hero abilities work from the mages i've engaged.  another unusual aspect is that hero abilities of the defensor are activated even if there are no units defending.

[lord_frank]

But when I tried to use many stack... And my necromancer leads a stack, I can see in the report that a number of enemy units died in chill touch...

mhh yes , you are right

the abilities activated time recently

I am finishing installing, in these days were left 100%

tnk

[lord_frank]

another unusual aspect is that hero abilities of the defensor are activated even if there are no units defending.

I knew it, already I will repair it

;)

[vrumugum]

So just checking up on this again...sorry to be a nuisance, but the changes regarding many heros with one stack haven't been implemented yet, have they?  I've still been testing hero abilities and they still appear to work somewhat randomly, especially in regards to abilities like mind blast, chill touch, healing, etc.  Also, valkyrie abilities (besides valor) do not seem to be implemented either (I think I saw a question on the boards about that somewhere).  I will be testing terror/unholy aura once my dread knight hits lv 18 =p.  

[sperm]

Well... I haven't tested it yet.... I'll test tomorrow... Just geld some more... Damn! I need a crypt keeper. Hehehe

[sperm]

Hmm... Well, the Rally ability from shieldmaiden seem to ber working fine even if she is not leading a stack.. So is valor, animate dead.

Could anyone check on these...

1. Chill touch - still does not work; the only time chill touch is activated if that hero would lead a stack.

2. Channeling (non-battle) - does not increase mana production.

3. Valkyrie suppose to have icicle and iceshield... I wonder what happen to that.

[vrumugum]

Hmm... Well, the Rally ability from shieldmaiden seem to ber working fine even if she is not leading a stack.. So is valor, animate dead.

Could anyone check on these...

1. Chill touch - still does not work; the only time chill touch is activated if that hero would lead a stack.

2. Channeling (non-battle) - does not increase mana production.

3. Valkyrie suppose to have icicle and iceshield... I wonder what happen to that.

1.  Chill touch does work even when the stack is not led by the hero, just not all the time.  BTW, the ability is very powerful.  I've had chill touch kill up to 7 ultimates - including nixes, elementals, leviathan, etc.  Not sure if that's because I have two lv 17 heros with chill touch though.  

2  Channeling does work.  The extra mana income is not reported on your status page, but you do recieve additional mana income.  I got 150 extra mana/turn when my shaman was lv 17.  I dont know if it's a % of income or a straight gain.

3.  I'm also wondering about icicle/ice shield.  The abilities would be very useful...and not make me feel like an idiot for paying 4 bil for my valk =p

[sperm]

Chill touch is very powerful indeed... Just killed 4000 of my Horned Demons... Damn!!  

[lord_frank]

server?

[vrumugum]

The ability is very powerful when you have both a soul reaper and necromancer at relatively high levels.  Many things have a low resistance to cold attacks anyway, so who knows...

[sperm]

server?

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