An End To The English/spanish War?

[Anton Draven LaVey]

Keep on? John what a con, just smoke this bong.

[patchan]

Odd

[Rofellos]

Very Odd...

[patchan]

actualy i didnt know how to delete this post becuase i posted a new topic so i left those 3 letters there

[He-Man]

well, i hope some of eoe leaders will be more reasonable because is evident that english player who post in forum are not.

Seing the things like are now all reset will be the same, and you know what? if you don`t change your actitude i think you theserve it.

For more info read:

English descripcion wishing dead to all spanish (post named "nick")
English multiatacking for getting randoms (see: begining of war with ltdd and begining war with omp)

I know, faerys are shit, but those attack where randoms! if you can`t stop them you don`t deserve the land and position so you must loose.

First of all Nick posted that to prove a point. Before he was asked to changed his description he was DELETED. We discussed it last night and he knew he would be deleted. Who cares if you dont like his description? Did he ever cheat? did he ever he multi mage? did he hack he hack into someone elses mage? did he get help from a mod? NO. This game is bassed around war. So who cares if he had a message that was negative to someone? He played fair. And it's not like he wasn't in the right to say it... I know it had something to do with killing all the spanish mages or something like that. but look who we are up against. We are facing 9 guilds.  

[Dracolich]

Although I think his mage should be restored, his description was far worse than you think, He-Man. If he would wrote a full of disgusting insults description, it would be better.
Right now it is not fair cause the rules are not entirely developed, but in a future I hope the rules state clear this will be cause of instant elimination.  

[Iratus]

EoE did not ask for aid from our allies they did so willingly. Just as I assume your allies did.  

[Fistan_dantilus]

estoy totalmente de acuerdo con lo que dice thevon, la guerra entre hispanos y guiris no es por razones racistas ni ninguna cosa parecida, simplemente hay tres gremios que coincide que son de habla inglesa que estan aliados entre si y tienen mucho poder, y cual es la forma de intentar disminuir su poder? pues entrando en guerra con ellos pero para que la guerra sea igualada deben de ser las fuerzas iguales, por ello las uniones de los gremios power, LTDD, LP, iluminati... etc, si me dejo alguno perdon, coincidiendo con que estos con hispanos.

Tambien estoy de acuerdo con lo que dicen de que dejen la diplomacia para los que somos diplomaticos de los gremios, todo lo demas seran opiniones diversas pero no posturas de los gremios.

Siento no poder poner esto en ingles pero mi ingles es pobre.
un saludo a todos

[Mago Viejo Verde]

Por mi parte , tengo muy claro algo de este thread
1 - The Von , He-Man , Iratus , Puedo no estar de acuerdo , pero
me gusta lo que oigo , sigo escuchando.

2 - Liante , Anthon , y familia... no.

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For Myself , I have now a clear picture.
1 - The Von , He-Man , Iratus : I may not be conviced of your arguments,
but i'm willing to hear more.

2 - Liante , Anthon , and family ... no.

P.D. : The Von ... ¿Alan Dean Foster , te suena?

[Panther]

Well here is my two cents.  some shit happened and war was started. war was not a motive of any guild it was induced by some trouble makers and now we have what is our current situation.

but here are the facts

Both guilds have mages dying
Both guilds have mages not as high as they should be based on skill because they are constant targets
Both guilds are equally pounding on one another and for what?
people who die just reincarnate and are back in a matter of days.


but here is the point i am trying to make. while Ti/Tca/Eoe war Ltdd Power Glh Omp i and whoever else decided to jump on the bandwagon.

WHile all of this is going on

1 TIA LA T.I.A. # Reclutando # 1,200 161,278 388,822,072 49 7,935,144
2 .EoE. The Empire of Excursion [recruiting/reclutando] 1,217 191,448 382,030,140 70 5,457,573
3 TCA -----***The Crimson Army***----- 984 139,863 360,410,113 36 10,011,392
4 KDA Knights of the Dark Age 310 86,462 260,062,567 12 21,671,881
5 LTDD La Torre Del Destino 914 84,597 218,415,220 28 7,800,544
6 P0wer Power And Majesty 711 83,792 212,666,693 26 8,179,488
7 PH Poder Hispano en Extremo 635 96,336 197,739,022 32 6,179,344
8 *LP* *Los pajilleros* 648 75,309 180,435,871 23 7,845,038
9 GLH Guardianes de las Lagrimas del Hielo 615 59,866 165,472,033 20 8,273,602
10 VCM ¡¡¡ Viiva Chile Mierda !!! 520 68,469 150,825,619 24 6,284,401

the guilds that are NOT involved are loring or using mc's or constantly progressing.
they have the advantage of not loosing land
they have the advantage of gelding and loring
they have the ADVANTAGE when armageddon comes along.  and will f**k us ALL over in a heartbeat to get hall spots.  

Will the "english" players in this war be able to stop this...not after a grueling war with their enemies

Will the "spanish" players in this war be able to stop this...not after a grueling war with their enemies

so while we pound eachother away for a pointless war that more than half the people dont know why we are fighting the non involved guiilds get stronger while BOTH sides get weaker.

You wanna know what those two guilds are doing right about now?
they are laughing at how stupid we ALL are, and perparing to reap the benefits of both sides tearing eachother apart.

basically, i say we end the war now and go back to playign reguarly.  this is my offer, if not, we can pound away all reset and the non-involved guilds can grow stronger and stronger until arma comes along and they get to finish off whatever is left of both sides.  


There are TWO ways this war can end
1) peaceful diplomacy NOW
2)the war will last until armageddon and then the noninvolved guilds will DESTROY BOTH sides of the warring guilds.

we are ALL smart people and we are ALL being laughed at for this stupid war. it is only hurting the guilds involved and helping SIGNIFICANTLY the non-involved guilds.

But if we wanna war from now til arma...so be it, but neiter side will die completely, so the only end is in peace or in exaustion and being picked on by non involved guilds in arma.

how will this war be remembered? the HoF dosent recognize winners of wars.
Bragging rights dont mean jack when both sides equally fight
all that appear in the HoF are

top 10 mages,
top 5 guilds.

if all guilds can remember before this war started, where their guild war ranked...ALL warring guilds dropped in power, ALL non warring guilds went up in power....

My point is clear enough,
remember this war is good for NO ONE involved...so why should the mages keep warring if nothing can benefit either side from it?

REMEMBER, they are laughing at our stupidity for keeping this war going while they get fat and ready for armageddon  

[Jame007]

La rivalidad que hay en Power contra EoE no es por diferencia de nacionalidad. Y quien piense o diga lo contrario o no sabe de lo q habla (con lo cual es un bocazas) o es un inculto (con lo cual suele ser tmb un bocazas porque habla sin preguntar o saber del tema).

[He-Man]

Well here is my two cents.  some shit happened and war was started. war was not a motive of any guild it was induced by some trouble makers and now we have what is our current situation.

but here are the facts

Both guilds have mages dying
Both guilds have mages not as high as they should be based on skill because they are constant targets
Both guilds are equally pounding on one another and for what?
people who die just reincarnate and are back in a matter of days.


but here is the point i am trying to make. while Ti/Tca/Eoe war Ltdd Power Glh Omp i and whoever else decided to jump on the bandwagon.

WHile all of this is going on

1 TIA LA T.I.A. # Reclutando # 1,200 161,278 388,822,072 49 7,935,144
2 .EoE. The Empire of Excursion [recruiting/reclutando] 1,217 191,448 382,030,140 70 5,457,573
3 TCA -----***The Crimson Army***----- 984 139,863 360,410,113 36 10,011,392
4 KDA Knights of the Dark Age 310 86,462 260,062,567 12 21,671,881
5 LTDD La Torre Del Destino 914 84,597 218,415,220 28 7,800,544
6 P0wer Power And Majesty 711 83,792 212,666,693 26 8,179,488
7 PH Poder Hispano en Extremo 635 96,336 197,739,022 32 6,179,344
8 *LP* *Los pajilleros* 648 75,309 180,435,871 23 7,845,038
9 GLH Guardianes de las Lagrimas del Hielo 615 59,866 165,472,033 20 8,273,602
10 VCM ¡¡¡ Viiva Chile Mierda !!! 520 68,469 150,825,619 24 6,284,401

the guilds that are NOT involved are loring or using mc's or constantly progressing.
they have the advantage of not loosing land
they have the advantage of gelding and loring
they have the ADVANTAGE when armageddon comes along.  and will f**k us ALL over in a heartbeat to get hall spots. 

Will the "english" players in this war be able to stop this...not after a grueling war with their enemies

Will the "spanish" players in this war be able to stop this...not after a grueling war with their enemies

so while we pound eachother away for a pointless war that more than half the people dont know why we are fighting the non involved guiilds get stronger while BOTH sides get weaker.

You wanna know what those two guilds are doing right about now?
they are laughing at how stupid we ALL are, and perparing to reap the benefits of both sides tearing eachother apart.

basically, i say we end the war now and go back to playign reguarly.  this is my offer, if not, we can pound away all reset and the non-involved guilds can grow stronger and stronger until arma comes along and they get to finish off whatever is left of both sides. 


There are TWO ways this war can end
1) peaceful diplomacy NOW
2)the war will last until armageddon and then the noninvolved guilds will DESTROY BOTH sides of the warring guilds.

we are ALL smart people and we are ALL being laughed at for this stupid war. it is only hurting the guilds involved and helping SIGNIFICANTLY the non-involved guilds.

But if we wanna war from now til arma...so be it, but neiter side will die completely, so the only end is in peace or in exaustion and being picked on by non involved guilds in arma.

how will this war be remembered? the HoF dosent recognize winners of wars.
Bragging rights dont mean jack when both sides equally fight
all that appear in the HoF are

top 10 mages,
top 5 guilds.

if all guilds can remember before this war started, where their guild war ranked...ALL warring guilds dropped in power, ALL non warring guilds went up in power....

My point is clear enough,
remember this war is good for NO ONE involved...so why should the mages keep warring if nothing can benefit either side from it?

REMEMBER, they are laughing at our stupidity for keeping this war going while they get fat and ready for armageddon

Panther they want KDA/TIA to hall as long as it's a guild that isn't us, and it is a Spanish guild. The only reason TCA is so low is because Nick was deleted and PenisPump had to power down and meditate.

[Mago Viejo Verde]

Hombre , una alianza entre EoE y LTDD seria
algo muuuuy chungo de hacer,
pero mas jodido todavia estaria juntar en
la misma alianza a TCA (Patria de Liante- y Anthon)
y la torre (Mi casa y la de Loky) ...

Los lideres de los gremios podrian llevarse bien,
pero los items con destinatario equivocado
iban a volar...

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An alliance between EoE and LTDD is reeealy
hard to manage , but is just insane to pretend
to sit in the same table TCA (country of Liante- and
Anthon) and LTDD (the country of myself and Loky)

The leaders of both guild may get going well enougth
but the items with misdirected target would be
everyday ocurrence...

[Panther]

no alliance just a stop to the war.

no one is benefiting from this war except TIA and KDA and they arent in the war

so why should both sides bust our asses to do all we can to kill when in the end we will all be too weak to stop those two guilds or to surpass them.

alliance between guilds after a war is hard, but i suggest we just stop and go back to regular randoms and and hitting anyone, not only war targets.  

i guarantee if this war continues the hof will be all kda and tia and it will be tol loss of BOTH WARRING SIDES and the VICTORY of those two guilds...

should a guild be VICTORIOUS without even being in a war?

listen we are willing to compromise because we realize the bigger picture.
if we get out of this hate hate hate mode for one minute it becomes clear that all we are doing is hurting both our chances of succeeding.  

this war is handing ON A SILVER PLATTER the entire reset to the guilds not involved. so lets stop the war and have a HoF and an armageddon based on skill and luck, not based on whom handed the spots to whom

[He-Man]

menos cuando te tiran un cos que formas un circo  :lol:



jijijijijijiji

jajaja, exacto, me kejo de k jame me coordinase con un cos, cuando el se ha  kejado de otras actitudes, siendo el 2er rdm k le pego desde k le conozco, hoy me he ganado otro mas y no me he kejado en absoluto

I don't believe that this war is being won by skill I think it is being won by #'s I truely doubt you would be at the disadvantage if this war were done souly on attacks. our stacking is supperior and our play is supperior. But when you are out numbers 4 to 1 or higher it's quite hard to hold your own. I'm not saying that this is unjust. but LTDD is getting to much credit, Most the time we have died at the hands of numbers of mages. Fury was hit by over 20 mages. and only 3 or 4 of them were LTDD.

[Dracolich]

Bueno, la traduccion de los larguisimos posts de Panther es cortita, si no paramos la guerra haran HoF TIA y KDA riendose de nosotros.

Panther, I like your arguments, but sadly they come a bit late. Let's see, if war hadn't appeared, LTDD, Power, and others would have a slight chance to make HoF. Perhaps KDA, TIA and the english guilds would have break the nap, and some other could have take their chance.
Right now, it is impossible to those mages to reach the top, distances are too big, and the randoms you talk will be against the same, cause you are napped with KDA and TIA. For spanish players, HoF will be:

-If war stops: KDA and the english guilds.
-If war continues: KDA and TIA, and perhaps a pair of players of the english guilds.

Of course, thinking that the rest of the reset will be a quiet one, without more wars and the such.

So the choice of LTDD, Power, etc it is not to stop for looking a HoF they see already lost, it is to follow to see you, the ones who declared war and killed their little chances to reach it, out of it, and have fun in the process. Read my words as I am not part of any guild, please. (I am LTDD, but only to help serenyzing old friends, and if the war ends, I will probably kill my mage. I created my mage when the war started, and didn't attack nobody, except you. )

I hope this kind of "strange" wars can be avoided in the future, and I still think this one can be stopped, but not with your arguments, sorry.

Greetings.

[Dracolich]

I don't believe that this war is being won by skill I think it is being won by #'s I truely doubt we would be at the disadvantage if this war were done souly on attacks. our stacking is supperior and our play is supperior. But when you are out numbers 4 to 1 or higher it's quite hard to hold your own. I'm not saying that this is unjust. but LTDD is getting to much credit, Most the time we have died at the hands of numbers of mages. Fury was hit by over 20 mages. and only 3 or 4 of them were LTDD.

I've never seen any player, english or spanish, admiting the other part was better, and I don't expect to see it now. But there is a post of Iratus far more explicative than yours about the developing of the war...;)

BTW, the quote you put has nothing to do with the war.

[He-Man]

I don't believe that this war is being won by skill I think it is being won by #'s I truely doubt we would be at the disadvantage if this war were done souly on attacks. our stacking is supperior and our play is supperior. But when you are out numbers 4 to 1 or higher it's quite hard to hold your own. I'm not saying that this is unjust. but LTDD is getting to much credit, Most the time we have died at the hands of numbers of mages. Fury was hit by over 20 mages. and only 3 or 4 of them were LTDD.

I've never seen any player, english or spanish, admiting the other part was better, and I don't expect to see it now. But there is a post of Iratus far more explicative than yours about the developing of the war...;)

BTW, the quote you put has nothing to do with the war.

LTDD, GLH, Illuminati (.:i:.), Power, VCM, ADP, *LP*, Guada, OMP vs. TCA, EoE, TI. That seems a bit silly to me. And that's why you are at the advantage right now It's all the numbers game. So yes my post did have something to do with the war. I was pretty much saying for everyone one of us there are 4 of you. thats

[Panther]

well it is out on the table.

but i know at least 5-7 Ltdd mages who can definately suceed and have a shot at halling.

i know of maybe 3-4 powers who have a chance.

and to majo viejo verde

we are all using our resoucres now, rotten food, pipes, books, vortexes and dolls, using whines etc to recover. will their be sufficient resources left or mages powerful enough for any contention?

let cooler heads pervail and let us all do the sensible thing for our guilds.
i can think of 2 guilds that are playing thier cards right...and i think we can guess which two.

peace is offered and on the table. if we want to negotiate further let us set a date and time and discuss all of this. unfortunately things happened that lead to war, things no one had any control over. we cannot chage the past but we can improve our futures this reset...again, if anyone is interested and likes the idea by all means...

[Onimaru]

things are not goin anywhere here so the war keeps goin, and Sepharad is VERY and i say it loud coz i really stupid trying to make that, if EoE, TCA and TI own the top is coz they're good players not coz they're cheating you sound like those ppl that say if the rich ppl have a lot of money they are obliged to share w/us is just imposibble if you wanna be in the top be a good player and reach it

[Dracolich]

So yes my post did have something to do with the war. I was pretty much saying for everyone one of us there are 4 of you. thats

I said your quote, not your post. The quote means the words that appear

this way.

You quoted the words of Loky and Pablox about an attack independent of this war.  

[TheVon]

Hi all

Todo este asunto se debe seguir discutiendo, pero a ver si es posible hacerlo en los dos idiomas, tanto en ingles, como en español. Yo puedo leer el ingles, expresarme en el no tanto, y de todas formas tengo suficiente con mi trabajo como para cansarme de oir, leer o hablar en ingles, aleman o sueco. Muchos no entienden ni J de lo ke aki se discute y seria importante ke lo supiesen.

P.D.: Gracias Mago Viejo verde por ser el unico ke hace traduccion simultanea, de alan he leido la saga de cthulhu (mas facil de escribir ke de pronunciar) y se ke escribio la guerra de las galaxias pero no toi por la labor de leermelas. ¿Por que lo preguntabas?

Ta otra....

[He-Man]

So yes my post did have something to do with the war. I was pretty much saying for everyone one of us there are 4 of you. thats

I said your quote, not your post. The quote means the words that appear

this way.

You quoted the words of Loky and Pablox about an attack independent of this war.

oh yeah, i guess i hit quote instead of reply. accidento

[Sepharad]

La rivalidad que hay en Power contra EoE no es por diferencia de nacionalidad. Y quien piense o diga lo contrario o no sabe de lo q habla (con lo cual es un bocazas) o es un inculto (con lo cual suele ser tmb un bocazas porque habla sin preguntar o saber del tema).

No puedo evitar contestando con un...  amén!  :lol:

xd

Ya vuelvo a dormirme    

[Anton Draven LaVey]

So i guess there no end to the war yet?

[Iratus]

I see a lot offers here to end the war. And I see both sides points all to well.
I will simply state that if ltdd, power, and GLH wish to end the war at this time I am willing. I am also willing tot alk this thing through which can come to an advatange to all us.

And to be honest all this talk here is pointless unless some agreement is made between the leaders.

The leaders of these guilds know how to contact me if they wish to seriously discuss the war and a peaceful out come for one and all.

This offer stands for the leaders of any guilds which are part of this and I did not name.

Now I am willing to do this in this a serious and honest way if so desired.

I cant speak for any of our allies or naps but only EoE on these matters.

Again all the leaders of the guilds know how to contact me personally and I will be waiting their responces.

until Then

[noone]

this world would be a better place if we all just watched and lived south park

let's all get naked and get in a big orgy and have sex.

it worked and the people from the future left, so many we'll all fall in love and live happily ever after.

btw english mages suck.

i like AMERICAN mages!

they are the bestestest ;)  'ep 'ep!!

[Jame007]

Power solo se retirará de la guerra con dos condiciones:

1) Que LTDD o GLH se retiren de la guerra, pues nosotros entramos porque somos aliados y si ellos se retiran no tiene sentido que nosotros sigamos.

2) Una vez realizado el punto 1, que los gremios rivales cesen sus hostilidades contra Power (en términos de guerra claro).

Lógicamente, sino se cumplen las dos condiciones Power sigue en el ajo

[Lukander]

I haven´t read all posts, but I must say this:
- Panther: You are worry about KDA. But, if you know us a little, you will know that we´re not traitors. We have naps, and we´re not going to break them. Also, we could search for a nap with LTDD, but we keep hitting them. About TIA, well, I´m KDA, talk with them
- Honestly, I think English Guilds have made a mistake on declaring the war, on that point I agree with you.  
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 No he leido todos los pots, pero debo decir una cosa:
-  Panther: Te preocupa KDA. Pero, si nos conocieras un poco, sabrás ke no somos unos traidores. Tenemos naps, y no vamos a romperlos. Además, podríamos buscar un nap con LTDD, pero seguimos pegandoles.  Sobre TIA, weno, yo soy KDA, habla con ellos
- Sinceramente, pienso ke los gremios ingleses se han ekivocado al declarar la guerra, en ese punto estoy de acuerdo contigo

[Tarsius]

Fistandantilus, recuerda que ellos fueron los que declararon la guerra, no nosotros.
Lo que hicimos nosotros fue simplemente jugar como gremio, como un gremio más o menos coordinado en tiempo de paz...creo que en un server de gremios es de lo que se trata...ellos nos declararon la guerra pensando que sería sencillo teniendo en cuenta que siendo 4 veces más magos y teniendo 4 veces más de poder. Ahora que se han estampado parece que empiezan a recapacitar.

Que los otros gremios se hayan unido a la guerra en nuestro favor, eso es cosa suya, allá cada uno con sus motivaciones. Si ahora se ha girado en su contra el factor número, que no se quejen.

Sólo que quede claro ese punto, las negociaciones hacia la paz la llevan los diplomáticos de los gremios implicados, pero tendréis que ofrecer bastante más para que aceptemos.

[Anton Draven LaVey]

btw english mages suck.

i like AMERICAN mages!

Damn americans, and anyway your mage is deleted and mine is alive still and im english so english mages rock!

btw american mages suck.  

[Luzbel]

Bueno todas las equivocaciones traen consecuencias, y lo mas maduro es aceptar las consecuencias de sus actos, que si estan perdiendo son gajes del oficio, si fuera al contrario, que estuvieran ganando, no creo para nada que estuvieran pidiendo el cese de hostilidades. Ahora que si TIA y KDA quedan en el top, pues bien, será porqué son más astutos y juegan bien  

Luzbel :flor:

[Jame007]

la situacion de KDA y TIA me recuerda lo mismo que le pasó a Power cuando LTDD y KDA (y otros gremios) estubieron en guerra. Y logicamente, tambien hubo la misma envidia o desconfianza al ser neutrales ^^

Y como dice un viejo refran:

"la misma mierda con diferente nombre"

(no va por ningun gremio eh, q nadie se sienta aludido)

[Jame007]

cual?  :unsure:  

[Pablox]

BeFree(#43)

por cierto, a ver si te pillo por el msn y hablamos trankilamente (este sabado andare a media tarde casi fijo, si puedes conecta, o enviame un mail diciendo cuando vas a conectar el fin de semana )

[Jame007]

yo suelo andar conectado casi todo el dia (es lo q tiene tener ADSL xD). Por ahi las 4 te va bien?

[Lukander]

Abajo a la izquierda hay un recuadro muy bonito en el ke pone PM, ke por cierto no significa "Puta Madre" ni na por el estilo, noooo, significa "Private Message" ;)  

[Jame007]

anda, yo pensaba q significaba Palomitas de Maiz xDDD  <_<  

/me lalalaa :unsure:  :lol:  

[Silmar]

Juas... como esta el patio...

solo me pregunto como es que les da la neura ahora a todos los gremios angloparlantes de parar la guerra... hace no mucho tiempo todos tenian ganas de destripar los magos de torre y compañia...

sera que los sentimientos no han cambiado pero la situacion si...

en fin

Silmar

[Mago Viejo Verde]

Silmar , pues veras esta noche , cuando llevemos a cabo la operacion
True Colors .... va a ser un descojone }XD

Matar no se si matare , pero reirme....

:lol:    :lol:    :lol:  

[Pablox]

yo suelo andar conectado casi todo el dia (es lo q tiene tener ADSL xD). Por ahi las 4 te va bien?

estare algo mas tarde

ya me he comido 3 cos atacando, y 4 defendiendo xDDDDDDDDDDD, putos magos negros xDDDDDDDDDDDD.

[Fistan_dantilus]

tarsius, soy consciente de la forma en que se ha producido la guerra y sus desencadenantes, cada gremio tiene sus motivos y sus opiniones mas o menos validas para estar o no estar metido en la pomada y no voy debatirlas ahora, solo me gustaria decir que hay ciertos post en temas del este foro que se han subido de tono y se han pasao tres pueblos, señores esto es un juego, no se coman el coco tanto que lleguen al punto de pasar del ocio a la enemistad.  
Como diplomatico de mi gremio gestionare las relaciones con los demas gremios asi como nuestro papel en la guerra segun la opinion y las ordenes que reciba de mi gremio, pero nunca en beneficio personal, solo en beneficio de mi gremio.
Un saludo a todos


P.D: Pablox ya era hora de que los negros tuvieramos el cos para reventar a los blanquitos y demas magos en los counters. Cos Forceeeeeee¡¡¡¡¡¡

[Silmar]

Dantilus... la guerra da = xk se provoco, pero cada cual obtiene lo k merece... TORRE RULES!!!!!

Silmar

[Jame007]

LTDD, GLH, Illuminati (.:i:.), Power, VCM, ADP, *LP*, Guada, OMP vs. TCA, EoE, TI. That seems a bit silly to me. And that's why you are at the advantage right now It's all the numbers game. So yes my post did have something to do with the war. I was pretty much saying for everyone one of us there are 4 of you. thats

Como dicen por aqui en mi tierra:

"Quien busca, encuentra"

Es decir, si los gremios estan contra vosotros, por algo será.

[Anton Draven LaVey]

Hush little baby, shhhh,  don't say a word. Daddy's gonna buy you a big black bird!

[chaskas]

Este fuma de la buena...

[Wulfbait]

Mu tos-sica chascas, mu tos-sica

[hispano]

La Diplomacia entre gremios HISPANOS......"WIRIS", siempre es dificil, pero el unico modo de conseguir llegara  buen puerto en ellas es consiguiendo k los "pitbulls" de los gremios no posteen sandeces en el foro, es la unica forma de conseguir k se rebajen tensiones y se llege a algo.....


Podria proponerse una reunion de diplomaticos ....o algo por el estilo para empezar a negociar de forma conjunta y dejarlo todo resuelto ......,


Para el reset k biene la diplomacia vendra dada, de como se acabe el armagedon.......entonces se sabra.



PD: exepto este reset en k hemos tenido problemas dados con EoE, y vinieron ocasionados por el descontrol del gremio cuando el asesinato de Iratus.....puedo asegurar k EoE mientras estubo aliado con nosotros no se comporto mal, tal y como aseguraban muchos, y la alianza duro 2 reset,,.,,,, No mas k decir

[east]

this world would be a better place if we all just watched and lived south park

let's all get naked and get in a big orgy and have sex.

it worked and the people from the future left, so many we'll all fall in love and live happily ever after.

btw english mages suck.

i like AMERICAN mages!

they are the bestestest ;)  'ep 'ep!!

You are a fag.  English mages >> than american fat asses. End of story.

[LostSoul]

La Diplomacia entre gremios HISPANOS......"WIRIS", siempre es dificil, pero el unico modo de conseguir llegara  buen puerto en ellas es consiguiendo k los "pitbulls" de los gremios no posteen sandeces en el foro, es la unica forma de conseguir k se rebajen tensiones y se llege a algo.....

Estoy de acuerdo con Hispano...  hay un par de individuos que lo unico que hacen es crear mas resentimiento y discordia, pero bueno, supongo que tendran sus razones...  Aunque me parece lamentable cuando estos magos llegan demasiado bajo hasta el punto de ser ofensivos, y aunque sea en broma, hay cosas con las que no se juegan...

Tambien me parece bien la idea que si quieren hablar de algo, que sean los diplomaticos los que hablen, sin dejarse llevar por las tonterias que digan otros...